Will AI Overtake Recruitment Industry, Rashesh Doshi, Mumbai, India

In this episode, host Tom Reaoch interviews Rashesh Doshi, Director of Talent Corner HR Services in Mumbai, India. They discuss the impact of AI on the recruitment industry.

 Rashesh asserts that AI will enhance, not replace, recruiters by handling repetitive tasks, allowing recruiters to focus on understanding candidates' aspirations and building trust. He explains his work with corporations seeking talent in India across diverse industries like finance, pharmaceuticals, and manufacturing. 

Rashesh also invites not only Brazilian but all corporations interested in India to connect with him. The episode highlights the enduring importance of human connection in recruitment despite technological advancements.

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Tom Reaoch 00:00:06  I'm Tom Reaoch, promoting successful business experts. Connecting people throughout the world from my podcast studio in Brazil. Joining us today from Mumbai, India, Rashesh Doshi, Director of Talent Corner HR Services, helping companies "Recruit. Right". So Rashesh will AI overtake the recruitment industry?

Rashesh Doshi 00:00:31  So Tom, that's an interesting question. And my answer to that is no, I am not of the opinion that AI is going to take over the recruitment industry. yes, it will make our jobs more sweeter, is what I can tell you. you know, a recruiter, and I've been one for the last 21 years. Plus, what we like to do is we like to talk to people, right? We like to connect with people. we like to understand more about their aspirations. we'd like to understand about how we can find them. The right fit. It, you know, and get the right fit for our clients. And I think a lot of our time as recruiters was involved in menial and repetitive tasks, which now I is able to do, thus allowing us to, you know, focus on what we actually like to do.

Rashesh Doshi 00:01:23  So no, I don't think I will overtake recruitment, but it will only make our jobs more sweeter.

Tom Reaoch 00:01:30  And to your point of clients, your clients are corporations wanting to find human resources or or do you also speak to individual people?

Rashesh Doshi 00:01:40  My clients are actually corporations looking to find talent for their organization, of course. On the other hand, our stakeholders are also candidates, but we don't do any commercial transactions with the candidates.

Tom Reaoch 00:01:52  But through the networking, you're always looking to meet people. That can be a basis for hiring for the corporations that you represent, right?

Rashesh Doshi 00:02:00  Absolutely, absolutely.

Tom Reaoch 00:02:02  And then to the point of businesses between people or amongst people, then you're getting to know the person and finding the fit is your center of expertise.

Rashesh Doshi 00:02:13  Yes. So our basic intent is to try and understand what our client is looking out for and then find the right talent for them. So it does involve, looking for a cultural fit. It does involve understanding the aspirations and the technical fit of the candidate. And of course, then placing them at the client's office.

Tom Reaoch 00:02:37  Well, I don't want to underestimate the part of technical fit, but also I see, your specialist in the leadership and trust building, because the the practical technical side, that could be some of that could be solved by AI, Correct. But leadership and trust building and those skills. That's eye to eye, right?

Rashesh Doshi 00:03:01  Absolutely. That's that's one of the big reasons I believe that AI won't be able to, you know, take a substantial part of our jobs because these things require empathy. These things require a lot of, conversations with people. These these things require us to read between the lines and that I don't think I can overtake. That's something that only humans can bring to the table. Right?

Tom Reaoch 00:03:28  Well, more and more, there seem to be more lines to have between. and you really have to get to that, let's say the soft side of understanding.

Rashesh Doshi 00:03:38  Correct.

Tom Reaoch 00:03:39  Now, your clients, your corporations, are they all over or are they just Indian companies? Are they global corporations?

Rashesh Doshi 00:03:46  So they are all companies that doing business in India or desiring to do business in India.

Rashesh Doshi 00:03:51  So we have a lot of multinational corporations which are having their offices and businesses in India. many of them actually, what we call the global captive centers who are based in the US, but they are actually having a lot of talent, which is based in their offices in India. so technically speaking, while we do our business in India, we're actually serving quite a bit of the global requirement of talent.

Tom Reaoch 00:04:17  And that's across all types of corporations. We have, you know, different economic focuses of financial, pharmaceutical, manufacturing. So you cover all those bases?

Rashesh Doshi 00:04:28  Absolutely. We have teams which take care of all of these, the the searching. We take care of all of that. We, in fact, have a team size of more than 250 talented people, and they take care of different industries.

Tom Reaoch 00:04:42  So any corporation here specifically from Brazil. So Brazilian corporations interested in creating or establishing, contact or an organization, in, in India. You would be the guy to call.

Rashesh Doshi 00:04:56  Absolutely. I would be the right person to reach out to.

Tom Reaoch 00:05:00  And to start the ball rolling. Right?

Rashesh Doshi 00:05:02  Absolutely.

Tom Reaoch 00:05:04  Very good. Well, how can our listeners, wherever they are in the world, find you?

Rashesh Doshi 00:05:09  So I, I'm absolutely active on my LinkedIn, which runs by the handle by my name, Rajesh Doshi. And one can also connect with me from my website, my email ID and my phone number is all available on my website and one can reach me at any time.

Tom Reaoch 00:05:27  Very good. And I see on LinkedIn. Yes, you are very active. I'm looking at your profile right now, where you say creating India's largest franchise network in the recruitment industry and helping, as I mentioned, helping companies recruit, right. And also networking. Right.

Rashesh Doshi 00:05:45  Absolutely.

Tom Reaoch 00:05:46  Very good. So it is Rashesh Doshi, the first name r a s h e s h. The last name d o s h i. You find him on LinkedIn and the website which is www.talentcorner.in  Café & Networking is brought to us by FocusMI Market Intelligence, an agricultural market research specialist in Brazil.

Tom Reaoch 00:06:11  More information at www.FocusMI.com That's focusMI.com Talk to Tom. Talk to the World. Thanks for listening. Till the next time here at Cafe and Networking Podcast.

The White Guy in DEI, Paolo Gaudiano, Author, Speaker, Chief Scientist, New York

 

Why are White Leaders resisting DEI? Paolo Gaudiano shares his perspective, Speaker, Chief Scientist at Aleria, showing how to leverage DEI for success. Author of "Measuring Inclusion" Higher Profits, Happier People, without Gueswork or Backlash, available on Amazon.

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Tom Reaoch 00:00:05  I'm Tom Reaoch, promoting successful business experts, connecting people throughout the world from my podcast studio in Brazil. Joining us today from New York, Paolo Gaudiano, the White Guy in DEA. Author, Speaker and Chief  Scientist at Aleria showing how to leverage DEI for success. Paolo, why are white leaders resisting DEI?

Paolo Gaudiano 00:00:33  Tom, first of all, thank you for having me on here. And I would say that question has really two different answers. One of them is that a lot of the initiatives that have been promoted in the DEI context, especially in the last few years since the murder of George Floyd, have been somewhat misguided in that they've really focused a lot on guilt, on giving people a sense of what are some of the inequities that are happening. And it creates a sense of otherness and diversity of, well, diversity, but in a negative way. It makes people feel different from each other. And unfortunately, that's also created somewhat of a burden for a lot of leaders and their resistance to that when they fail to see tangible results and they feel that that's actually upsetting some of their employees.

Paolo Gaudiano 00:01:14  You know, a lot of white male employees that creates problems and it creates backlash. But I think that there's a second answer, which is that there is a I think there is an over estimation of how many white leaders actually resist DEI. I think that a lot of white leaders, and in fact, my research has shown that in a way, inclusion is kind of invisible. So a lot of leaders just don't really understand the extent to which some of their employees are being subjected to experiences that have a negative impact on their ability to work. And so what ends up happening is that the white leaders, who are the ones that tend to be the most included, and that's the ones that are the least likely to understand exclusion, are often just not really aware of the gravity of the situation and how it impacts their organization. And I think that so much of DEI has focused on statistical data overall, but it kind of fails or neglects to show a specific leader how their company is impacted by DEI. So I would argue that yes, there are some people that are against or resisting DEI, but I would also argue that there are a lot that given the right tools, the right metrics, the right outcomes would be more than happy to do the right thing.

Paolo Gaudiano 00:02:17  They just don't know what to do and they don't have the right data.

Tom Reaoch 00:02:20  Well, to that, to the word metrics, I see you have a book which is a success and it's called "Measuring Inclusion". So you're actually coming out with numbers there, right.

Paolo Gaudiano 00:02:30  Exactly, exactly. And I think that was a big, big breakthrough that actually led me to decide to write this book, was the realization that in the world of Dei, the vast majority of data has always focused on diversity alone. So we talk about DEI, but we only really measure diversity or representation. How many of these, how many of those, etc.. What I realized through my research is that knowing that there are, let's say, 10% African Americans in a US company or, you know, 30% women in a European company is not as relevant as understanding how those people are treated within the organization and how that impacts their ability to succeed, to create revenues for the organization and their desire to stay in the organization. And I found a way of measuring inclusion by effectively measuring the specific experiences, not the feelings of inclusion, but the experiences that people have as a result of their identity.

Paolo Gaudiano 00:03:22  And in some cases, even when they don't realize because of their identity. And by quantifying that, we now have an additional set of data that gives us a lot more clarity about what exactly is happening and what can be done about it.

Tom Reaoch 00:03:35  Now that's really needed because we're speaking to, you know, the world is round and global and it's diverse and we can't get around that. And many corporations today are global and have become and then some hope to be. But but to that point Finland, Iceland, New Zealand, Iowa, they're all different. And you know, we have organizations that are working around the world. So even the DEI aspect reaches employees in different parts of the same corporation in a different way. But the bottom line, it comes together as a bottom line, right?

Paolo Gaudiano 00:04:09  Yeah. And you're absolutely you're spot on. And in fact, one of the great benefits that we've seen of measuring inclusion, and we've now worked with a few multinational companies where we measured inclusion across the globe. And what you realize is that diversity is a very relative concept.

Paolo Gaudiano 00:04:23  If you are black in America, that's in North America, that's very different than being black in Brazil or being black in Africa. And when you talk about inclusion, and the way that we measure it again is by asking for experiences. And then we have these categories like is it about work life balance? Is it about compensation and benefits. And those concepts are universal. So even though we see very different data, let's say in Asia-Pacific, than we do in Europe or North America or Africa, relatively speaking, we can get very, very consistent results by asking people about inclusion, because those are universal concepts. You know, being able to balance your personal life with your work life or being able to get compensated for the work that you do, are universal concepts that do not depend on the particular identity and your social cultural context.

Tom Reaoch 00:05:11  And again, for our listeners, and we're talking about global concepts. And back to your book, The Metric Inclusion the world works and the world finds it?

Paolo Gaudiano 00:05:20  The book is actually available on Amazon, and pretty much any online retailer will actually sell the book.

Paolo Gaudiano 00:05:26  Measuring inclusion I believe it's the only one by that title. The subtitle is Higher Profits and Happier People with no guesswork or Backlash. And it kind of tells you all about the content of the book.

Tom Reaoch 00:05:38  Repeat that please.

Paolo Gaudiano 00:05:40  So it's higher profits and happier people without guesswork or backlash.

Tom Reaoch 00:05:47  And everybody's just looking at the backlash recently. Right.

Paolo Gaudiano 00:05:50  Absolutely. And I felt very strongly when we were designing the subtitle with my publisher. We felt very strongly that we wanted to talk about profits first, because ultimately we're trying to convince business leaders, right?

Tom Reaoch 00:06:00  If you don't if you don't talk about profits nobody reads the book. So.

Paolo Gaudiano 00:06:03  Exactly, exactly.

Tom Reaoch 00:06:05  So but anyway.

Paolo Gaudiano 00:06:07  Amazon or any other online bookseller will you'll find that book.

Tom Reaoch 00:06:11  Very good. Well, also I say you're a speaker so you don't only have the book. You're out talking about it.

Paolo Gaudiano 00:06:16  That's correct. And I've been fortunate that I've given two TED talks, and one of them was actually selected by the TED Organization to be featured as a main TED talk.

Paolo Gaudiano 00:06:24  So if you go to TED.com and you look up my last name Gaudiano, G a u d i a n o, you will find a TED talk that I gave about a year ago on this very topic.

Tom Reaoch 00:06:36  Well very good. Well, keep talking, keep writing, keep podcasting and listening. So where can our listeners find you?

Paolo Gaudiano 00:06:43  Probably the best place is my website, Aeria.tech. And that's called aleria.tech h or on LinkedIn if you go to LinkedIn, my profile name is P Gaudiano and I'm the only Paolo Galliano as far as I know on LinkedIn, so it should be pretty easy to find.

Tom Reaoch 00:07:08  Well, and also, I can see you're only the white guy in DEA, so you're the guy.

Paolo Gaudiano 00:07:14  Well, I appreciate that there are other white men that are working in DEI. I think my work is unique, probably a little bit less for that, and more because of the quantitative angle and the way that we measure inclusion. But I do take a lot of pride in being a white person and realizing that I need to learn how to be part of the solution instead of part of the problem.

Paolo Gaudiano 00:07:33  And I like to think that my work is really significant, having a significant impact, and I hope that it will continue to do so in spite of the current political climate.

Tom Reaoch 00:07:42  Wow. Well, again, congratulations for what you're doing and keep doing it okay.

Paolo Gaudiano 00:07:47  Thank you Tom. Really appreciate it.

Tom Reaoch 00:07:48  Okay. Again, for our listeners, it is Paolo Gaudiano. Paolo. The last name g a u d i a n o. You'll find him on LinkedIn and his site, which is Aeria, Aleria, Aleria dot tech. Cafe & Networking is brought to us by FocusMI.com  Market Intelligence, an agricultural market research specialist in Brazil. More information at focusmi.com. Talk to Tom. Talk to the World. Thanks for listening. And till the next time here at Cafe and Networking Podcast.

Amplifying Voices of Experts, Adam Torres, Mission Matters Media, Los Angeles, CA

Why Building a Community Around a Brand is so Important. Adam Torres, Mission Matters Media, A Media, Branding and Book Publishing Agency, shares how and why community matters. https://askadamtorres.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamtorres8

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Tom Reaoch - I'm Tom Reaoch promoting successful business experts. Connecting people throughout the world from my podcast studio in Brazil. Joining us today from Los Angeles, Adam Torres, cofounder of Mission Matters Media, a media branding and book publishing agency dedicated to amplifying voices of experts. So, Adam, why is building a community around a brand so important?

Adam Torres -   Hey, Tom, first, thanks so much for having me on the show. And when I think about building a community around a brand, mission matters as a whole, we started as a community. The concept was simple. we helped multiple individuals into be published in an anthology series. we used to meet at the Beverly Wilshire Hotel in,  Beverly Hills, California, right off of Rodeo Drive. And we'd meet there, one, Thursday per month. And it was just kind of some buddies think about it, just networking and just kind of talking. And at some point, that concept of doing a book together and then promoting it together, that was developed and that's really where the whole community was built out of.

Aam Torres -  And since then, we've published over 400 authors. a podcast was launched out of those same initial meetings that we were just really hanging around with different referral partners and people that we wanted to build with. And since then, I've done over 6000 interviews, and this year I'll do between 1500 and 2000 interviews. Tom. So the community is building, we reach a little over a million a month. And I'll tell you, it all started from community. We didn't start with, how are we going to make money with this? Because I was in finance, I didn't have this wasn't even supposed.

Tom Reaoch -  To be worried about everybody else's money, right?

Adam Torres -   Well, it was another business. I was doing something different. This was literally out of community. and so when I, when others are launching businesses or when they're creating something else, when I think about what can't be replaced, you know, we'll talk I, we got technology, we have automations, we have lots of things that can make products maybe faster, sometimes better, sometimes cheaper.

Adam Torres -   But you're but the community component that you can't outsource. Community. Humans want connection. Humans want to be together. They want to connect. And that's where I think anybody that's launching a brand and or a business should be thinking about community and how the community fits into that.

Tom Reaoch -   And to get to that point, what you're saying, it's not simply because it's not simple, but many expert, enterprises just start from a cup of coffee and people sitting around a table, you know, that's where the ideas start flowing. And one of the Things I've always found in my life is that, you know, to share ideas with people, real people, and today can share it with anything but that, that really inspires everybody to do something. And, and the community is a real community because you're talking about Los Angeles or Beverly Hills, but any corner, any place, anywhere, you know, it's the people, it's the neighborhood, it's whatever. It's the corner store, it's the grocery. And those are all things.

Tom Reaoch -   It was the school. It's the church. Things start there and they expand so that, you know, keeping your hands around. And I think your expansion, your  what you say on on your podcast, on your LinkedIn, you want to help a billion people. There's 8 billion people out there. So to reach them really is what you're doing. You have to keep reaching and keep attracting. So I want to commend you on what you're doing. And the amplification of voices today has become more relevant. You are a speaker. Everything you said. You are also a global speaker, right?

Adam Torres -   Yeah. Of course. So my my my first I remember getting booked for my first big gig when I was sent to China on a speaking tour, and I did multiple cities there, and that was all based off of the books. So for anybody that I like, one of the things I like to do when I come on a podcast is I like to encourage others. Community is a big component, but you got to get out there and tell your story.

Adam Torres -  How are you going to attract the right community members if you don't share your story? A book and creating a book is a great way, or a podcast or Instagram or a TikTok, whatever you want to do and however you want to create content, like you got to tell your story one way or another if you want to attract the right community members.

Tom Reaoch -   And to the point of story and storytelling people like to hear. that's one of the things that, you know, and anyway, sitting around the table drinking your coffee or you're, you're you're talking, listening and hearing, you're not necessarily reading. I don't want to take anything away from a book. I've written a book in the same thing that I found. And I say my book has always been my best business card. Yep. And I never hoped that people would read it, actually. They want to know if you have a book. Yeah. And then they want to hire you to talk about the book.

Adam Torres -  There you go.

Tom Reaoch -   And, you know, like your trip to China.

Tom Reaoch -  That's it. They want to hire you to go and travel and talk about your book. And that's you as an author. And that's anybody like, like to hear the, let's say, the, the more personal and the intimate in the sense of, you know, they want a story is really how you feel. They want to see if you're smiling, if you're happy, if you're nervous, if you're not. And you just want to see the authenticity.

Adam Torres -   Oh, yeah.

Tom Reaoch -  You know, authenticity just comes through seeing somebody or hearing and watching. Anyway, so the best way for our listeners to find you which are how many are there of them.

Adam Torres -  So on online. Pretty simple. So MissionMatters.com is a big one. That's our company page. That's where they can see all the different podcast content on any social media. I'm AskAdamTorres.com So really simple. Whether it's TikTok, whether it's Instagram. Doesn´t matter where you go. AskAdamTorres. And if somebody out there working on a show, a book, a project, send me a DM.

Tom Reaoch -  Love to hear what you're working on. I take pictures all the time, so ask Adam Torres on Instagram or anywhere else on TikTok. And then finally ask Adam Torres, of course, the website, so you can find me across all of those channels.

Tom Reaoch -   I'm looking again at your LinkedIn profile, and I see their very up front is learn more about our  community. Clicking on that gets a whole page of more links now. But to the point of persons, professionals wanting to be a guest on one of your podcasts. That's right up front. So, it's all pretty dynamic and pretty easy.

Adam Torres -  Hey, that's what we try to make it easy for people. Time. Come on. You have got to let people to find you, for people to work with. You got to make it easy.

Tom Reaoch -  Gotta make it you gotta  keep it going. So that's. That's the thing. Very good. Well, thank you for being here today and sharing our time.

Adam Torres  -   Thank you Tom.   Appreciate you.

Tom Reaoch -  And again for everybody, more information about Adam Torres.

 It's Adam, the last name. T o r r e s. Find him on LinkedIn. And as he said, AskAdamTorres.com . AskAdamTorres. Cafe & Networking is sponsored by FocusMI Market Intelligence, an agricultural market research specialist in Brazil. More information at their site focusmi.com. Talk to Tom. Talk to the World. Thanks for listening. Till the next time here at Cafe and Networking Podcast.

Tough Talk Blueprint, Traci Austin, Elevated Talent, Beloit, WI

 AI will create new demands, and opportunites for the Blue-Collar Trade Professionals. Traci Austin, Chief Talent Officer at Elevated Talent Consulting shares her "Tough Talk Blueprint" and training for job site leadership challenges by trade leaders. 

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